Please pass on to anyone else who might have been planning to come along tomorrow morning at 8.30.
A revised date will be sorted in the New Year.
Please pass on to anyone else who might have been planning to come along tomorrow morning at 8.30.
A revised date will be sorted in the New Year.
Pedals have launched a new system to allow the recording of incidents that cyclists have had relating to the tram.
If you have had a cycling accident on Nottingham’s tram network please use this form to record the details. This will be used by Pedals to identify the types and locations of accidents so that we can campaign to have the issues resolved. Pedals will share this information in an anonymised form with NET, the city and county councils, and relevant groups involved in road safety and cycling. Your name and contact details will not be passed on.
Can cyclists and trams ever mix safely? BBC’s Inside Out article available on iPlayer.
You can report tram incidents in Nottingham here.
The latest edition of the Sustrans Schools Nottingham News is now attached. The autumn edition includes:
– Cycling Surge at Farnborough Academy
– New Tram Routes Now Open!
– Sneinton Primary received School Mark Award
– The Tour of Britain Stage Finish in Nottingham
– Harvey Hadden closed road circuit opens 12th September
and loads more stories and resources…
Note: several of the issues referred to below have now been addressed are in process of being sorted.
New NET routes – sorting out potential hazards for cyclists –
Please give us further feedback on specific problems with the new route layouts
Even though both new tram lines were fully opened on 25 August 2015 Pedals continues our efforts to minimise risks for cyclists, and to help publicise good practice cycling safety advice and the various cycle facilities being introduced in conjunction with both new NET routes, to Clifton and Toton.
We are very keen to get further feedback from members on specific problems, whether they relate to hazardous features or just ones that are awkward or otherwise clearly substandard and the result of shoddy hastily completed and thoughtless construction detail. We want to know about these as well as ones that are mainly the result of various design constraints and which can perhaps be addressed only by improving signs and markings.
In February Peter Briggs and Hugh McClintock from Pedals, and Gary Smerdon-White and Martin Budjoso from Ridewise had extensive discussions with Tramlink and their contractors, TWA, about the series of issues reported in recent months by many cyclists. We went on to a site meeting to inspect the locations of many of these to help make quite clear what the particular issue was, as well as our more general concerns about the layouts in the Beeston and Chilwell areas, especially on the High Road and Chilwell Road.
In this visit paid particular attention to what we consider to be the most hazardous parts of the new NET network; the very constrained section of route through Beeston and Chilwell High Road, but we also looked at some problem sites on the Clifton route near Wilford Toll Bridge and the new tramside paths past Wilford.
There was not time to visit all the problem sites but we have still made Tramlink and TWA aware of all of them and other problems that have been mentioned since. We plan another site meeting in the autumn of 2015 to assess progress in addressing these issues. Please let us have feedback on the issues below including additional problems not included and also any cases where some modifications have now been made, e.g. as happened in July 2015 to provide flusher kerbs at the crossing of Riverside Way north of the riverside path a bit west of the north end of Wilford Bridge.
The issues so far brought our attention include:-
NET route to Chilwell and Toton (CT)
CT03: Clifton Boulevard end of Science Road (under the Ningbo tram bridge across the Ring Road towards the QMC): poor kerbing in the layout for cyclists going straight ahead on the Clifton Boulevard (west side) cycle path. We are hoping that this will be sorted out by Highways England (former Highways Agency) and City Council as part of a series of improvements on this section of the Ring Road cycle paths.
CT04: Gritley Mews / Meadows Way junction: lack of flush kerb directly opposite the Gritley Mews access
CT06: New Cycle route direction sign at the junction of the shared path on Abbey Street with the River Leen-side path heading N towards the QMC / Leengate and Wollaton etc.: the distance to the QMC is shown as 1 ½ miles which seems much greater than it actually is.
CT07: lack of flush kerbs at the Lower Road (Beeston) end of the cycle path connecting to Queens’ Rod East.
CT08: lack of flush kerbs at the Queen’s Road East end of the cycle path connecting to Lower Road, Beeston.
CT10: examples of inconsistent and ambiguous signing for cyclists on the Lower Road-Fletcher Road through route, Beeston (images from Gareth Gee, August 2015)
(Karen Nurse of Notts County Council informed us on 28.8.15 that they were aware of this confusion and were intending to carry out a review of this signing and, in cooperation with “third parties” to take steps to address them. She said that this might well take several months to carry out)
CT13: Middle Street and Station Street junction, Beeston: Take your life in your hands and cross the tracks at a super shallow angle – you can see the lane to aim for on the left. You’re taking the same path as this blue car.
(photo: Iain Lane)
CT19: (Ben Troth, 9.9.15 with photos by David Lally on 14.9.15): poor visibility of signals at the University Park south entrance on the University Boulevard north tramside shared path when riding eastbound.
CT20: 1: (Gareth Gee, 16.9.15): While cycling AWAY from the University, south-westwards, one finds this, on Middle Street by The City, near City Road. It seems to suggest that cyclists should mount the pavement here to get to these two places. In fact, University Park would need a U-turn here, and Beeston town centre needs a right turn. This sign is truly INSANE. Just round the corner on City Road there is an even madder one, however, which states that ‘Town Centre’ is half a mile to the south-east – i.e., in exactly the wrong direction.
CT21: (Gareth Gee, 16.9.15): This one I call ‘Why the plural?’ It seems to direct cyclists either onto the tram tracks (just where that dangerous angle has been highlighted already), or perhaps straight through the front door of Tesco’s. It’s by the Scout centre on Middle Street, near the new Interchange. Here a left turn should be shown for ‘town centre’, the other two locations are straight.
CT22: (Gareth Gee, 16.9.15): Middle Street/Station Road. Is it an advanced stop line for right-turning cyclists, or not? A parking space, maybe? Already causing arguments between motorists and cyclists, the confusion at this busy junction will likely lead to an accident. I don’t know whether there was supposed to be a cycle symbol painted in the box; maybe they just got fed up? At the left of this photo, not shown, the stop line itself is missing across the cycle lane, suggesting that cyclists can just go straight through. There is also a weird arrow directing cyclists up onto the narrow pavement at a blind junction – already mentioned a zillion times to NET, Nottingham Council, and Notts County Council, and consistently ignored.
comments of 16 Sept from Karen Nurse, Notts CC to Gareth Gee:
Thank you for the photo it clearly shows an error in the lining. The line nearest to the crossing should not be there so that the right turn lane is set back from the other lane. I will pass this information onto the NET Contractor so that it can be rectified.
CT23: Tar-filled join on Chilwell Road. While not anywhere near as hazardous as the tracks this slippery-when-wet tar is in the perfect place to cause problems especially when manoeuvring to cross the tracks at a safe angle. The photos don’t show it well but this seam varies in parts between a ~0.5cm below the level of the tarmac to the same above. (David Lally, 28.9.15)
CT24: Path on S side of Toton tram terminus: path surface is not really suitable for cycling. The loose surface can lead to wheels sliding when cornering and in the wet I am informed it is “like cycling on wet sand”. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT25: The path on the S side of the Toton tram terminus is nice and wide whilst it passes the car park but soon narrows down and becomes pretty overgrown – the left corner is very poor. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT26: After just over 1/4 mile I am surprised to see a sign informing me that it is 2 1/4 miles to Beeston as this is what the sign at the start of the path claims! After doing another 1/4 mile I am again informed that it is still 2¼ miles to Beeston. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT27: When I come to the first road crossing, the kerb on the other side has no drop. Whilst I guess cyclists are expected to cycle up the road a short distance for some reason to where there is a dropped kerb, I can imagine someone not noticing this until it is too late and being stuck in front of an oncoming vehicle. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT28: I am very confused here to notice a sign suggesting cyclists should dismount when using the path I have just cycled along, it is clearly the main cycle path to Beeston and there is no such sign when coming from the other end of the path???
I do not like these dismount signs anyway, I realise they are just a suggestion but I expect a lot of pedestrians will believe they are mandatory and it will cause a lot of bad feeling between them and the cyclists who do not dismount. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT29: When I come to the point on Eskdale Drive where you cross the tram tracks the sign is on the wrong side of the pole so you do not see it. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT30: The path is then pretty good apart from for some reason it snakes along rather than going in a straight line which is very annoying. Also, as you come out of the park area there is an un-signposted junction where it is unclear which way you should go. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT31: As you come to the road crossing (Bramcote Lane I think) there were some major flooding on the cycle path. This will be lethal come winter. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT32: The road junction of Cator Lane seems a bit confusing with no clear signage where you are expected to go. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT33. Experienced cyclists who intend to cycle straight down the road rather than use the footpath option around the junction here will turn right on to the road and will then come to a pedestrian crossing which if on red they will have no way of knowing as they joined the road between the light. This could easily result in a serious incident.
Even the cyclists who do take the footpath option here are at risk of similar if they join the road too soon, also in parts this path is far too narrow to cycle round (especially considering it is shared with pedestrians). (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT34: Central College – High Road. The route then down and along the High Road towards the tram tracks is not great for cyclists, especially with all the parked cars on the High Road. It is a shame no route through the back streets could have been found to keep off the High Road for as long as possible.
Then we come to what I think is the biggest problem with this route, this being where you are forced to cross the tram tracks (near the college). Whilst I understand there is the option to come off the road and follow the convoluted route sharing a path with all the students from the main doors of the college, experienced cyclists will want to stay on the road (which I understand should be suitable for all traffic to use, so this is not unreasonable).
I have never managed to find any safe way to cross this junction as it invariably results in a near miss with the car behind as they get confused / impatient and try to pass just as you pull back along the road.
A classic example of this can be seen in a video from one of my attempts here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMEpvxWSEmc
This I find happens pretty much any time I attempt this junction with a vehicle behind me.
If using the footpath option at the college junction, when returning to the road I feel this is almost guiding the cyclist to cross the tracks at a very narrow angle which is not a good idea at all. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
Cycling down the High Road if you stay between the two tracks works ok but can result in other vehicles getting impatient as they struggle to pass, there is also the problem that swerving to avoid any obstacle is not an option because of the tram track either side of you. When you come to the end of the road and again have to cross the tracks I find exactly the same problem in that any attempt to follow the road to the right is very difficult and results in a near miss with the vehicle behind.
Note: As regard cyclists and the tram tracks I think there is a lot of confusion as there are broadly speaking two types of cyclist who will have very different experiences of them:
An occasional cyclist who tends to cycle at little more than walking pace will be able to cross the tracks at shallow angles (at least in the dry) and usually get away with it but someone who cycles a lot (or cycles for sport) who tends to cycle at 20mph plus will find that as soon as their wheel touches the metal og the tracks it is just like hitting ice and they are off the bike. I myself learned this lesson the hard way when they were installed in Nottingham and two of my friends have recently done the same with the new tracks around Beeston. The biggest problem in my opinion is that the dangers are really down played so cyclists believe they just need to take a bit of extra care and they are forced to learn the hard way. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT35: This part of the High Road where if cyclists miss the left turn they have nowhere to go seems very risky to me but not sure what could be done to help? (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT36: When I follow the signs for “Town Centre” it seems to take me on a very odd extended route right round and back and up past the new tram stops, I have no idea why as turning left at the end of the High Road is very much preferable to turning right for reasons given above and much shorter. There is no clear sign to guide me into Beeston and I end up heading back the other way up the High Road out of Beeston again? (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT37: (no photo available). The toucan crossing on Devonshire Avenue has no signs to show which way a cyclist is allowed to go as they cross over the road (I think this was until recently the case for all of them around this area so it may be signs are going to be installed at some point?). (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT38: (no photo available). The sign for cycle route to Nottingham near the “Nat West” marking on the above map is laugh out loud funny in that a few feet after it is a sign informing people there is no cycling (during business hours). (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
CT39: At the Lakeside end of University Boulevard, just W of the S entrance, there are some cycle racks which I believe are an accident waiting to happen as a cyclist could easily (if it is dark or foggy) not see them and cycle straight into them. (Alan Blackham, 29.9.15)
NET route to Clifton (CL)
CL02: 100m (approx.) south of path junction with Meadows Way. Path has a chicane that merges it with a parallel path, but merging is too narrow and chicane angle not acute enough – the result being numerous conflicts: Pedestrian-Cyclist and Cyclist-Cyclist.
CL08: Coronation Avenue, Wilford: no dropped kerb at the end of the shared path slope down from the tram route, on the north side of Coronation Avenue about half way between The Ferry PH and the corner where the tram turns towards Wilford Lane.
CL09: 3 sets of barriers on the tramside path east of Wilford, between the riverside (Coronation Avenue, Wilford) and Wilford Lane, with extra fencing added in August 2015 to deter bypassing of the barriers (CL9a).
CL11: Ruddington Lane Tramstop. Hazardous access from Ruddington Lane (Ruddington direction) north to Tramside path towards Wilford Lane and vice-versa. The very narrow access gap and close proximity of tramlines causes a hazard to Cyclists. Also, Motorists need to be aware that Cyclists may turn right here.
CL13: Path section parallel to Ferry Inn Car Park, Wilford. Dangerously positioned (and unnecessary) flowerbed chicane on the downslope of the path. This feature puts cyclists in direct conflict with pedestrians as it forces a confusing position change on both: especially risky for unfit pedestrians (struggling with the gradient) as they appear to be confused by the Cyclists behaviour (necessitated by the poor positioning of the chicane).
CL14: Path crossing of B679 Wilford Lane, nr Becket School. Badly positioned Traffic light poles giving a narrow gap with insufficient clearances is causing a hazard to Cyclists needing to cross and conflict with pedestrians. Very long delay on crossing signal changes (30-40 seconds) is both hazardous and prejudicial to NMUs. Solutions: Site assessment and functionality study involving substantial consultation with Cyclists and other NMUs, repositioning/redesign of Crossing.
CL15: Narrowing of path 200m (approx.) south of Wilford Ind Est/Ruddington Lane tramstop. Path narrows on approach to A52 underpass, getting even narrower under bridge. Lack of space is causing conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, producing a hazard.
CL16. Shared path on Wilford Toll Bridge is very hard for cyclists to ride over during peak periods as it is dominated by children walking to and from school. Cyclists therefore often ride close to the tram tracks.
CL20. Poor intervisibility, because of the mound on the north side of the path junction at the east end of Coronation Avenue, Wilford (by the bend in the tram tracks), between eastbound path users on the tramside cycle path just north of Coronation Avenue and westbound path users on the riverside path approaching the path junction, and the tram track crossing to and from Coronation Avenue.
We understand that the contractors have a period of one year from final completion (25 August 2015) to deal with snags on both routes so we recognise that we may well have to wait a long time yet to get many of these detailed issues properly sorted out!
We intend to keep up the pressure and would welcome support from other people to help do this please!
Please send any further comments to
Hugh McClintock: Hugh.McClintock@ntlworld.com
Proposed foot-cycle bridge over the Trent between Trent Lane and The Hook (Lady Bay, West Bridgford): Update of 5 October 2015 to people and organisations interested in the development of our plans.
The original story can be found here.
I realise that it is quite a while since the last update on our bridge plans. We have done a lot of work since our Steering Group was formed just over a year ago and have plenty more to do but are taking it step by step and are making definite progress, for example with the recent strong encouragement from the City and County Councils to take further our work on completing the feasibility study.
We are now in discussions with Sustrans about commissioning further specialist
work drawing on their wider experience to help us strengthen the case for the bridge, for both commuting and leisure use.
Below is my recent reply to an article by Ben Ireland of the Nottingham Post in which he stated that the recent grant of planning permission for a new development east of Trent Lane might scupper the plans for our bridge.
This reply was published prominently in the paper on Friday 2 October (p14), along with a photo of the very successful Sustrans Diglis foot and cycle bridge over the River Severn in Worcester, opened in 2010, whose experience we think is particular relevant for our project, along with that of the similar bridge opened very recently across the River Thames between Reading and Caversham (see pictures attached).
There is also a very inspiring short video of the Diglis Bridge on the Sustrans website at http://www.sustrans.org.uk/diglis-bridge-worcester
We intend sometime soon to arrange a special meeting in Worcester to see this bridge and its approaches at first hand and to have detailed discussions with the people from Sustrans and the local authorities in that area about how the design for this bridge evolved and lessons for us from their planning and implementation experience, including the development of their case for funding.
More and more people are now showing interest in our proposals and offering support. I should like to pay particular tribute to two Pedals members, Adrian Harms and Howard Gill from Bite Design Ltd, who have very generously donated their time to help with the very useful CGI (computer generated images) work mentioned below.
My reply of 29 September 2015 to Ben Ireland, Nottingham Post
Dear Ben Ireland,
On behalf of the Steering Group promoting plans for foot-cycle bridge between Trent Lane and The Hook (Lady Bay) I would like to reply to your article in the Post of 24 September in which you stated that the plans recently approved by the City Council for 81 flats on the Park Yacht Club could “scupper” our proposals.
With help from Adrian Harms and Howard Gill from Bite Design Ltd, who have recently produced some very useful computer-generated images of the proposed bridge and its approaches we have been exploring various design and access options. These take account of the recently approved plans and other possible developments nearby and we are confident that some of these options will still be possible if the flats go ahead.
As part of our wider work we are also gathering information on different bridge designs and similar projects that have been implemented elsewhere such as the very well-used and successful Diglis Bridge over the River Severn in Worcester, and the bridge over the River Thames between Caversham and Reading .We are still working on more possible options for the design of the bridge and its approach ramps, taking account of the different opportunities and constraints on both banks of the Trent, and the opinions both of local people and relevant agencies including the local authorities, the Environment Agency and the Canal and River Trust.
Another step forward is our very recent discussions with Sustrans about commissioning them to do some further work to help us complete our feasibility study, both to help strengthen the economic case for the bridge and detailed predictions of likely usage, based on their substantial wider experience including the Diglis Bridge which seems particularly relevant to our project.
Our Steering Group includes representatives from Pedals, the Nottingham Local Access Forum, the Nottingham Civic Society, River Crescent Residents’ Association and Blueprint Regeneration.
There is much further work for us still to do but we have been very encouraged both by the support in principle for our project by more another 19 local groups and also recently by the strong encouragement from the City and County Councils to complete our feasibility study work and demonstrate the very strong case for such a bridge at this particular site.
This would be a great facility for walkers, cyclists and runners, for both leisure and commuting purposes, well-connected to many other routes on both banks including the further stretches of riverside path on the north bank soon to be built between Meadow Lane Lock and Colwick Park, and to many existing and proposed new housing areas north and south of the river, providing a much safer and more pleasant alternative to Trent Bridge and Lady Bay Bridge, with their very heavy traffic and bad air pollution problems.
Proposed Trent Lane to The Hook foot-cycle bridge Steering Group.
Update of 14 March 2016 on the proposed foot-cycle bridge between Trent Lane and The Hook (Lady Bay)
We have been working closely for some time now in consultation with Keith Morgan of the City Council and Paul Hillier of the County Council on a series of revisions to our earlier detailed feasibility study work to argue in detail the case for such a bridge east of Trent Bridge and our reasons for advocating this particular site as the best in overall terms, for walkers and cyclists, and for leisure and commuting use.
The further work on which we are engaged is now including, with much appreciated financial support from different Steering Group members and the City and County Councils, commissioning some specialist work from Sustrans on detailed predictions of bridge usage and the economic justification for the project.
This work, for which we gave the go-ahead on 8 March, and is likely to take about a month, is taking place in parallel with some further internal work, including a detailed SWOT (Strengths-Weaknesses-Opportunities-Strengths) analysis of the 4 theoretically possible sites for the bridge.
We will soon be making a submission to the Rushcliffe Borough Local Plan consultation, coordinated with the recent similar submission to Nottingham City Council’s Local Plan consultation to help raise the profile of the case for the bridge as a strategic link for Greater Nottingham. This follows our recent meeting with the Rushcliffe planners to help ensure that we are adequately addressing all the planning issues including the differing sets of issues in accommodating the bridge landings on both banks of the Trent.
These are all important steps as we continue to chip away on the long process of getting the case for the bridge fully accepted by the City and County Councils, to be then followed by the long process of trying to secure funding from a variety of sources.
Two of us from the Steering Group, John Rhodes and myself, visited Worcester in December to learn more at first hand from local County Councils and Sustrans officials involved with the planning and implementation of their very successful Diglis Bridge over the River Severn, completed in 2010, with funding from the Lottery-assisted Connect 2 Project Fund, (unfortunately now closed!). This meeting, and the subsequent site visit on bikes, confirmed our impression that the experience of that project is particularly relevant to what we are proposing locally. This includes the upgrading of approach routes on both sides of the river, and the experience of the Steering Group, with wide representation of the local authorities and other relevant agencies, that was used to plan and deliver the whole project, including the bridge itself and the other project components such as the improved approaches.
Chair, Proposed Trent Lane to The Hook (Lady Bay) foot-cycle bridge Steering Group
Update of 19 October 2016: Trent Lane-The Hook foot / cycle bridge plans: a long and tortuous saga!
Recent months have seen close working with Sustrans Research and Monitoring Unit on a study of the economic impact of the proposed bridge, to complement revised feasibility study work by the Steering Group.
After various delays we now hope that this will be completed in the next few weeks, to help us to make a convincing case as to why such a bridge is needed and why the site we proposed is the best option.
This work has included some revised detailed work on how our site compares with the other main contender, i.e. putting shared paths on one or both sides of Lady Bay, an idea first put forward by consultants in 2005 but never taken further by the City and County Councils.
Although this option might be preferable for many more confident and experienced cyclists, we think that it will be difficult to make it attractive for less confident cyclists, especially when approaching from the West Bridgford side.
It would also be much less attractive for walkers who we think are the biggest potential users of a new bridge, especially when making trips between Colwick Park and Colwick Woods on the north bank and Holme Pierrepont Water Sports Centre and Country Park on the south bank.
The Trent Lane to The Hook foot-cycle bridge Steering Group, chaired by Hugh McClintock, consists of representatives of these groups, working in close collaboration with Keith Morgan of Nottingham City Council, Paul Hillier of Nottinghamshire County Council, and Gwyneth McMinn of Sustrans :-
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Nottingham on every third Monday at 7.30 p.m. There are cycle stands opposite the main entrance.
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